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Tuesday, June 24, 2025

Magar Bhasa V

With the love & affection you guys have shown to my Magar Bhasa series, I would like to continue the series. And its also nice to see lot of young Magars showing interest in their ancestors language. Here, I would also be including few of the most demanded and seek sentences. So lets start.


Ngai nakoke maya jatlang. / Ngai nakoke jakle.

Ma timi lai maya garchu.

I love you. 


Ngai nakoke dherai maya jatlang.

Ma timi lai dherai maya garchu.

I love you so much.


Naye ngake kudik maya jatle ? / Naye ngake kudik jakle ?

Timile malai kati maya garchau? 

How much you love me?


Nang kus aala? / Nako su ala ?

Timi ko ho ?

Who are you ?


Nang holk aanai ? Nang holk aanani ?

Timi tyaha janchau ?

Will you go there ?


Kat-thai aaning.

Sangai jaam.

We well go together.


Ngake chindi-nani?

Malai chinchau ?

 Do you know me ?


Hos kus aala?

Tyo ko ho?

Who is he?


Seu jyanani?

Seu khanchau?

Do you like to have apple?


Di ganani?

Pani khanchau?

Do you want water?


Ilak muni.

Yahan basa.

Sit here.


Aab he jatke la?

Aab ke garne ho?

Whats next?


Mis-sin- g.

Sutam.

let's sleep.


Ilak rahani.

yeta aaunus.

Come here.


He jyakela?

Ke khane ho?

What do you have?


Hike sheh-reng-chala?

Timi kina khusi chau?

Why are you happy?


Na rap-ni.

Na runu.

Don't cry.


Nanko dherai seha-cha le.

Timi dherai ramri chau.

You are so beautiful.


Kulak ha-wa-cha la?

Kahan hineko ho?

Where are you going?


Kunch-le?

Kasto cha?

How is it?


Kudik nga-ak cha-la.

Kati bole ko ho.

You doing too much talking.


Imang ha-wa-ni.

Bhara hinda.

Let's go home.


Chhi-ning namas rah-hale.

Aaja pani aaucha.

Today, it will rain.


Ngai ma-jaak-lang.

Maile rucha-uun nna.

I don't like it.


Hos raakni.

Tyo dinus.

Give that to me.


Chhi-nning juh'ham mal-le.

Aja chiso cha.

Today its cold.


Chhi-nning khan ma-le.

Aja garam cha.

Today its hot.


Nga-ke hosni na.

malai bhannu na.

Please tell me.


Chhi-nning  bhati-haar jatke la.

Aja bhatiyar garne ho.

Today we will have social catering.


Ngai sa-ya jaklang.

Malai masu maan parcha.

I love to have meats.


Kudik kara- ang-cha-la.

Kati thulo ho.

Its so big.


Kudik ma-har-cha-la.

Kati sano ho.

Its so small.


Kudik ghang-cha-la.

Kati aaglo ho.

Its so tall.


Kudik yah ke-la?

Kati dine ho?

How much to give / pay?


Ma-chaan-ne ra?

Hunna ra?

Is it ok?


Hee-ke aauli?

Kina ho ra?

For what?


Ngai pa-ha ma-nang.

Maile sikdai chu.

I am learning.


Hee lo le la?

Ke kinne ho?

Anything to buy?


Di soh-na.

Tirkha layo.

Feeling thirsty.


Bhu-ruka.

Udayo.

Blowing away.


Chhi-nning pi-hin aap-paha-rinning.

Aaja bholi niparsi.

Today tomorrow day-after.


That's all for now. Hope you guys to see you soon. Cheers !!! 



 


Sunday, June 22, 2025

SPIRITUALITY vs PHILOSOPHY vs SCIENCE

As today I was going through my mobile I have come across this beautiful article. The detail of the article has compel me to think on some of the things related to spirituality & philosophy. But, first go through this interesting article, I have mentioned the source if anyone ones to check the original website. The article was written by Edwin O.

"Goodbye to universe as we know — Experts find “clues” of computer-like behavior

Sunday, June 15, 2025

Magar vs Kirat

 

Magar vs Kirat

 

How closely related are Magars & Kirats to each other? Are Magars part of Mahakirati group?

 

Understanding the relation between these two groups is not only the key to understand Nepal history but the history of Magars itself. I personally think that these answers will help in understanding Magars history & ancestors in much better way. The history which was always look from the perspective of Khas Aryans & Bahuns.

 

My main reference of the subject is from the book “Kirat-Limbu Sanskriti” written by Navraj Subba. When I say Kirat here I consider Rai, Limbu, Sunuwar etc under this word. (Whether other groups come under this group or not is the topic of another debate). One thing I have liked about this book is writer has taken the reference of another writer’s book which was written in past related to the Kirats. In the book he has mainly focused on the journey of Kirat & Limbu. However, the he has shown relation between Kirat to Babylon civilization, I am not so in line with him. He has taken the reference of Kirat Mudhum (Kind of their history & mythology) & some words that resembles with Babylon civilization.

 

In this what I want to add is that Kirat may have Babylon connection but saying Kirat originated or Kirat ancestors were from Babylon is too much of the bold claim. However, my understanding says that Kirati is actually have Northen connection they should have this route Siberia-Mongol-China-Tibet instead of Babylon-Iran-central Asia-India route. One of the main factors that contradict Nawraj Subba’s theory is the physical appearance of Kirats only. Now the next question is how does Kirati Mudhum has high resemblance with Gangetic or Aryan people. My answer is because the Mudhum & ancestry is written by Aryans. One thing we have to understand is that Aryans were literate & they were good in keeping ancestry record, which can be seen today also. There is a possibility that few elite Bahuns may have aligned with Kirats, who were already settled in Eastern Himalayans North of present-day Bihar. And this alignment doesn’t happen with Kirat only, this was the general trend at era. It happened in India when Aryans came, it happened in China when Buddhist monk visited China & so is with Muslim Clergy & Christan missionary. The Aryans I am talking about is high class Aryans, who always use to look for new kingdom where they can spread their influence & establish themselves on high position. The same this which happens with Islam & Christianity in Medieval period. One of the finest example is influence of Hinduism & now Christianity on Magars in current period.             

 

Here, few people may ask then what about their scripture. Scripture & books written was always the blends of myths & reality, to make or show reality some out of the world thing or superior than other. That what those literate people were mastered in & in return they use to get lot of respect & high position in king’s court. One thing I want to mention here is that Kirats were influenced by Aryan Brahmins at very early stage, the stage when these clergymen spreading in Gangetic plain, that’s the reason we can see the mention of Kirat people in Mahabharata also.

 

Now lets comeback to our main topic. As Nawraj Subba has mentioned that in Kirati Mudhum, Magar group is mentioned as part of the Mahakirati group. Its possible, how much weight is there in this claim, I will say very substantial. There are two things that connects today’s Magar with today’s Kirat:

1.    Physical appearance

2.    Language   

Second thing mentioning of Magar group in Kirati Mudhum under Mahakirati group also establish that all the groups mentioned in the Mahakrati group were already living in present day Nepal.  

 

Next question comes is how closely related we both groups are. Then my answer will be very much. We are as closely related as how Dravidians of South India are, how Hans, Manchu, Tibetans are related in China. Though technically every human being (Homo Sapiens) has come from a single mother. Here, we are talking about present day groups, I can definitely say that Magar & Kirat had more close common ancestry as compared to Magar & Gangetic people or South Indian Dravidian.      

 

There are few mentions of Magars in Kirat history, but one thing was clear at Mahabharat era also Magars were already had a different identity. Identity of their own as Magars.

 

What are the other common features between Magars & Kirats.

 

1.    Tantra philosophy may have come from Kirant root, though in ancient time all religion has deep root in Tantra even Hinduism & Buddhism (particularly Tibetan Budhism). Dhami & jhakri is common n both groups.

2.     Maghe Sankranti is main festival of Kirats. It is celebrated as victory over Kathmandu by King Yalambar. Maghe Sankranti is also celebrated as Kirati new year. Maghe Sankranti is also the main festival of Magars, but the thing is we still don’t know why it’s the major festival of Magars. We might find the answer in Kirat history.