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Sunday, June 15, 2025

Magar vs Kirat

 

Magar vs Kirat

 

How closely related are Magars & Kirats to each other? Are Magars part of Mahakirati group?

 

Understanding the relation between these two groups is not only the key to understand Nepal history but the history of Magars itself. I personally think that these answers will help in understanding Magars history & ancestors in much better way. The history which was always look from the perspective of Khas Aryans & Bahuns.

 

My main reference of the subject is from the book “Kirat-Limbu Sanskriti” written by Navraj Subba. When I say Kirat here I consider Rai, Limbu, Sunuwar etc under this word. (Whether other groups come under this group or not is the topic of another debate). One thing I have liked about this book is writer has taken the reference of another writer’s book which was written in past related to the Kirats. In the book he has mainly focused on the journey of Kirat & Limbu. However, the he has shown relation between Kirat to Babylon civilization, I am not so in line with him. He has taken the reference of Kirat Mudhum (Kind of their history & mythology) & some words that resembles with Babylon civilization.

 

In this what I want to add is that Kirat may have Babylon connection but saying Kirat originated or Kirat ancestors were from Babylon is too much of the bold claim. However, my understanding says that Kirati is actually have Northen connection they should have this route Siberia-Mongol-China-Tibet instead of Babylon-Iran-central Asia-India route. One of the main factors that contradict Nawraj Subba’s theory is the physical appearance of Kirats only. Now the next question is how does Kirati Mudhum has high resemblance with Gangetic or Aryan people. My answer is because the Mudhum & ancestry is written by Aryans. One thing we have to understand is that Aryans were literate & they were good in keeping ancestry record, which can be seen today also. There is a possibility that few elite Bahuns may have aligned with Kirats, who were already settled in Eastern Himalayans North of present-day Bihar. And this alignment doesn’t happen with Kirat only, this was the general trend at era. It happened in India when Aryans came, it happened in China when Buddhist monk visited China & so is with Muslim Clergy & Christan missionary. The Aryans I am talking about is high class Aryans, who always use to look for new kingdom where they can spread their influence & establish themselves on high position. The same this which happens with Islam & Christianity in Medieval period. One of the finest example is influence of Hinduism & now Christianity on Magars in current period.             

 

Here, few people may ask then what about their scripture. Scripture & books written was always the blends of myths & reality, to make or show reality some out of the world thing or superior than other. That what those literate people were mastered in & in return they use to get lot of respect & high position in king’s court. One thing I want to mention here is that Kirats were influenced by Aryan Brahmins at very early stage, the stage when these clergymen spreading in Gangetic plain, that’s the reason we can see the mention of Kirat people in Mahabharata also.

 

Now lets comeback to our main topic. As Nawraj Subba has mentioned that in Kirati Mudhum, Magar group is mentioned as part of the Mahakirati group. Its possible, how much weight is there in this claim, I will say very substantial. There are two things that connects today’s Magar with today’s Kirat:

1.    Physical appearance

2.    Language   

Second thing mentioning of Magar group in Kirati Mudhum under Mahakirati group also establish that all the groups mentioned in the Mahakrati group were already living in present day Nepal.  

 

Next question comes is how closely related we both groups are. Then my answer will be very much. We are as closely related as how Dravidians of South India are, how Hans, Manchu, Tibetans are related in China. Though technically every human being (Homo Sapiens) has come from a single mother. Here, we are talking about present day groups, I can definitely say that Magar & Kirat had more close common ancestry as compared to Magar & Gangetic people or South Indian Dravidian.      

 

There are few mentions of Magars in Kirat history, but one thing was clear at Mahabharat era also Magars were already had a different identity. Identity of their own as Magars.

 

What are the other common features between Magars & Kirats.

 

1.    Tantra philosophy may have come from Kirant root, though in ancient time all religion has deep root in Tantra even Hinduism & Buddhism (particularly Tibetan Budhism). Dhami & jhakri is common n both groups.

2.     Maghe Sankranti is main festival of Kirats. It is celebrated as victory over Kathmandu by King Yalambar. Maghe Sankranti is also celebrated as Kirati new year. Maghe Sankranti is also the main festival of Magars, but the thing is we still don’t know why it’s the major festival of Magars. We might find the answer in Kirat history.

Sunday, April 6, 2025

The Lost Technology of The World - The Mantras

                          When people look at The Great Pyramid, Pyramids from Mayan civilization & the great Sumerian cities & Harrapan cities, we often wonder how can the people from 3000BC can make such high-end structures at that time. The answer to this question is very difficult. Youtube is full of this topic trying to explain the things, where mainly they talk about the aliens. The claim the existence & influence of aliens at that era.

                          However, I have completely different approach to look at these things & hence compelled me to write it on my blog.  

                          This theory of mine is based on historical facts & religious myths and books.

                           One thing that everyone must agree with me is that that time and those civilization was one of the most advanced civilization. However there is one thing common in all these civilization. That is after the downfall of these civilizations and when these great cities cease to exist, suddenly there was one kind of void in human civilization. Its like a those people who survived after that  has no clue whatsoever about the great technology. It took human next 5000 years to reach that level, that much was the degradation of humanity.

                           Now, the question is what is that thing or technology that helped in creating those unimaginable monuments. Did aliens really came on earth and taught human or helped human?

                          I get my answer when I look into the evolution of human & evolution of its belief in God & evolution of human consciousness. 

                          After the first human formed on earth or in science language when there was sudden change in one of the human ancestors and when a first homo sapiens took birth in this world, or when nature had first start producing homo sapiens (today's true human), that's when everything start changing in this world. A new type of improve consciousness came into existence.

                        These guys have the capabilities in mastering the complex art form, these guys have the capabilities to make computers, mobile phones (I hope I am going write). All in all what I want to say is that their brain had advanced thinking capabilities.

                        Now as the number of these homo sapiens grew, each individual was unique in his own terms. Few wanted to grab power and wanted to become the most powerful person, few used to like music - for them music was everything, few like hunting, few like painting, few were super intelligent & few were completely dumb. 

                      But my interest here is with those few who were interested in harnessing energy from the nature. The one who use to look for some higher power & love to communicated with them. Here, I am not using the word spirituality because spirituality came much later. The breed of person I am talking about we can call them  shamans, sorcerers, witch to certain extent (the one who misuse the power), high priests. The person who has certain connection with the nature and who can communicate with the nature. Which of course now science calls it bull shit. So you guys understand what i am talking here, and I definitely not talking about spirituality.

                      In the same category comes the Hermits, Sages, Tantriks who can use some energetic words to fulfil their will and to complete some tasks.        

                     These are the people who first connected with nature's energy. One of the interesting thing is that few have acquired those techniques but there are others who were naturally blessed with this things. So, people who called them hardcore science can stop reading from here, but the same guy can come realize it after 100 years. They might understand what I am talking or it might take little longer.

                    If you go through any religious text also you will also come to know how a particular religion or the religion has evolved. How, multi-gods converted into a single God in due course of time.

                   Now, lets come back to our point. As hunter developed more advanced form of weapon, music start becoming for system & so is dancing. Similarly, these magician people started learning more about their magic. Now what is this magic? It might have first started with person who can communicate with their ancestor's spirit. The spirit who can tell the future danger, it can guide them on their well being, somewhat help them when they are in some problem. Which you can even observe today if you go to any remote village in Himalaya. 

                 The more important aspects is that the people who has developed this nature's energy harnessing method into a technology. Even more surprising part was these people were not using any device. This technology, which anyone could acquire was based on powerful words, some sacrifice & some specific rituals & dedicated to specific aspect of the nature or you can call it deity.

                 With time these pre-historic scientist has developed their technology to such an extent that they did mastery in astrology, astronomy & to certain extent sorcery or magic. Which resulted in great pyramids, they didn't keep mummies just like that there had to be reason and purpose behind that. They made huge structures or monuments so that they can harness fore energy. If you ask me Egyptian technology was the most advanced of that time. That's the reason Pharaoh of Egypt ruled liked a god. 

               This thing was not just limited at Egypt, it was every part of the word at that time. The same technology was getting used by the Great Sages in Indian subcontinent. However, they had power to reach so called heaven, but its a topic for different discussion. But one thing that was definitely there was that Magic power & their able to communicate with the nature.

               So, it was not aliens who came and helped Earthian people, it was purely done by human with the guidance of Nature. Yes we can say it alien from higher dimensions, but they definitely don't exist in this human Universe.

               And the next interesting part is this same thing can explain the downfall or extinction of this advance civilization. Though, these pre-historic scientists were not exactly responsible for downfall but to certain extent yes.

                Anything in excess is not good and specially when it is getting used for other miserable. That's when the downfall started. And when evil reach its peak nature has to do the correction. So, we can don't look at it by evils perspective than also its the law of nature what comes in the universe one day its has to go.

              And as we know today after that how the human again started from scratch and a new Yuga has started.             

              This thing also gives lot of learning to we humans. In my opinion how advanced a human breed becomes it still under the influence of that Nature. However, I want to conclude this chapter with these words. pre-historic scientists were more powerful than today's scientist but still they had to go from this earth. So all in all live happy, give respects to everyone, keep the egos aside & enjoy this heaven,