Friday, October 3, 2014

Aalam Devi - Lasargha, A Fact

"A question on the occasion of Bada Dashain 2071:
Why Bhimsenpate tree in Alam Devi temple?
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[Maski Rana Magars have a tradition of being 'original priests' and crocodiles of Gah, Sinjali, Darlami, Somai, Thapa etc. have a tradition of being 'assistant priests' when such original priests are in a state of false sleep; Goddess Mane is the family deity of Gorkhali Shah kings - Why and why not build a Bhimsen leaf tree in 'Alam Devi' temple? A little bit about how the name Alam Devi came to be, how worship is done in Baradshah, will be posted shortly.]
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Talking about how the name of the present Alamdevi temple came to be 'Alamdevi temple', it also comes to the point that the same Shah Raja of Nepal, Maharaja Khalak had to establish 'relationship' with the Rajputs of Chittor. Bhupathi Rana, who is said to have fled from Chittor in 1495 BS to escape the onslaught of Mughal Emperor Akbar, is now considered to be the ancestor of the Shah dynasty of Nepal. This is not true as the Mughal emperor Akbar was born in 1542, exactly 47 years after the incident. This phenomenon, which is said to have occurred without human birth, is imaginary. This should be taken as a link in the Shah's attempt to show that he was a descendant of the 'Rajputs' of Chittor.
In any case, the idol of Kulayan Devi carried by the Bhupathi Rana, who is said to have been fleeing for his life, was placed under a Bhimsenpati tree at the place where the present Alam Devi is now. There is a saying that 'Alap Devi' was given the name and 'Alap Devi' was later called 'Alam Devi'.
According to another legend, the 'stone' of the common deity of the migrating Rana Magar and Shah Thakuri was a bit heavy, so when the idol was placed under a Bhimsenpati tree, a temple without a roof was built under it and the goddess was called Alap Devi They started saying 'Alam Devi'.
There is another saying that the name of the temple was changed from 'Arlang' to 'Alam Devi' as the flag was also called 'Arlang' in the Magar language and Bhupati Rana, who is said to have come from Chittor, built a fort or fort there and worshiped his favorite goddess.
The crocodiles still worship the Bhimsenpati tree. On the occasion of Basanta Panchami in Gorkha, this admin himself has worshiped the Bhimsenpati tree many times. There is still a Bhimsenpati tree in the Alam Devi temple. And, there is no roof in the temple because of the belief that the tree should not be cut down and a roof should not be put on the temple of the goddess.
Francis Hamilton is a British scholar who writes that he had no 'relationship' with the Shah of Nepal, Maharaja Khalak and the Rajputs of Chittaur. He lived in Nepal for 14 months between 1802 and 1803. He is the first to write that the Magars and the Shah dynasty belong to the same clan, i.e. the main festivals celebrated in Nepal today: such as Raksha Bandhan or Janai Purnima, Dashain, Tihar, Maghe Sakranti, etc. These festivals are celebrated according to Hindu law and are also given national recognition. "

Source: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=534436776699966&id=171605959649718&substory_index=0

What I want to add here is that Aalam also means World in Urdu, whose translation in Nepali could be "Jagat ko Devi'.   Also the title Shah itself is an Urdu word.

Do these things make any sense.

MAGAR KINGS - V

An interesting Article from Facebook in The Magars: Their History, Language and Culture

It simply came to our notice then
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In the year 1481, Shri Shake killed the Khadka (Magar) king of Gorkha and Dravya Shah laid the foundation of the Shah dynasty.
(Wednesday, September 24, 1616, the eighth day of the month)
"There was a Shadka king in Gorsha. His injustice and injustice were also very much in the mind of the unborn king of Bhaya. Ganesh Pandey understood the intentions of the people and made some requests. The Kshatriya clan was born. I begged and begged for more. This is how the industry wants to be done. The people of Bhava Havas Gorsha, who are devoted to some deities, begged me to help them and went to Gorsha. They wanted to pay homage to Narandas Arjyal at Chepya Ghat. Ganesh Pandey started consulting with the Magars in Gorsha. After the advice was blocked, he did not run here at once. It would be better to run here by using force. Others So 1. It's only been 2 years. The king of today is so strong that he is afraid. 10. It's been 12 years. There's a lot of deception going on and on and on. The force increases a lot after the liglig arm. It would be easy to come here from there. Ganesh Pandey has indicated that. The same advice came to Lee Narandas Arjyal and begged for bed. That's what the industry is all about. On the day of the vaccination, the coat was handed over. After that, Gorsha began to rule in the throne. Even the man from Gorsha could take Ganesh Pandey by the hand. At the same time, Raginas Deshi fought for fifteen days from Shri Drabya Shah. Shadka Kayet was not afraid. On the night of the fifteenth day, Ganesh Pandey Panth Arjyal went with all the soldiers and performed Deep Ganesh Pooja. Pandey Panth Aryal Shadal Shas Magar all five started talking to Khadka Raja but did not get along and then Sayet also came. Shri 5 Drabya Shah was killed and all the eleven Shadka kings were killed with their swords. From Taha, Sriganesha Pooja, Sakal Mangal, Brahmins, etc., all five sat in auspicious moments and ascended the throne. After Waha, King Mari of the upper coat handed over the upper coat. In the year 1481, Shri Shake, Shri 5 Maharaja Drabya Shah reigned on the throne of Gorsha.
Gorkhavanshavali - 2009, pp. 5-7
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Note: Some words are currently in common form and meaning
1) Gorsha = Gorkha
2) Shadka = Khadka
3) Lots = lots
4) Deshda = seeing
5) Shed = sorry
6) Purashcharan = work of sacrificing
7) To do = to do
8) Kastarah = how
9) Bhakti Bhava = Bhakti Bhava
10) Kayet = imprisonment
11) Shadal = Khanal
12) Shas = Khas
13) Returned = Returned
14) Sayet = Sait
15) Gyaar = Gayar
16) On the throne = on the throne (on the throne)
17) Upper Coat = There are 3 coats in Gorkha. The present Gorkha Durbar is considered as 'Majh Kot'. There is a 'lower coat' to the southwest of Gorkha Durbar. In all three coats there are Magar priests.
It is also written in the upper coat that 'Ghale Gurung Raja' was there. In this genealogy, 'Khadka Raja' is not referred to as 'Khadka Magar'. However, it is clear that the king was not a 'Khadka Kshatriya' by writing that the low caste king was afraid in Gorsha. Also, "Kshatriya king is not from Kastara and Kshatriya king is from Manula." It also means that 'Khadka Raja' was a 'drunken king'. For the same reason, historians have written 'Khadka Raja' of Gorkha as 'Khadka Magar Raja'.
This means that even before Dravya Shah won the Liglig, there was a 'tika practice'. But it is not clear whether the tika was given to Dashain or not. It is not clear on what occasion or on what occasion such red, black or white tika was given. And, it's not just a decade of protest or support, it's just another post about what is or is written in a historical document. "

Source: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=535673229909654&id=171605959649718&substory_index=0

Thursday, October 2, 2014

Liglig Kot Race 2014

" Anish Thapa Magar won in the men's category of the fifth edition of Lig-Lige Daud (Lig-Lige Race) held from Chepeghat Dhovan of Gorkha to the historic Lig-Lig Kot Palace in the district on Tuesday, October 1, 2014.

Thapa Magar, who serves to the Indian Army, completed the 13.2-km race in 56 minutes and 43 seconds.
Nepal Police's Bhumi Raj Rai finished second, clocking 59 minutes and 2 seconds, while Nepal Army's Rajan Khatri stood third, completing the race in 1 hour and 4 seconds.
Thapa Magar was awarded Rs 50,505; Rai took home Rs 25,205 and Khatri got Rs 10,101.

The Lig-Lige race is believed to have started in 1604 BS in Lig-Lig Kot to choose the Ghale Magar king. It was stopped in Dravya Shah's reign in 1616 BS."

 Source: http://www.nepalnews.com/index.php/society-archive/39627-anish-thapa-magar-wins-5th-edition-of-lig-lige-race-in-gorkha

Tuesday, September 2, 2014

ORIGIN OF MAGARS OF NEPAL - II (Where did the Magar come from?)

After a long gap I finally feel confident to complete my unfinished work. Hope it will further enrich the knowledge of our own history & identity.

In one way it will be a kind of conclusion of all my work & articles collected so far.

As I will always say " There is no doubt that Magars have originated from Mongolian race. The biggest evidence is the resemblance of the physical feature. linguistic tree also shows the that the Magar language belongs to Sino-Tibetan family. (Ref: http://www.ethnologue.com/14/show_language.asp?code=MGP) "


Source: http://laanghali.blogspot.in/search?updated-min=2012-01-01T00:00:00%2B05:30&updated-max=2013-01-01T00:00:00%2B05:30&max-results=7

But again I need to clarify that when I say Mongolian Race that doesn't mean that we are from Mongolia. For me it only signifies related to physical resemblace. Or otherwise we can say that we are great grand fathers have been migrated from Northern side of Nepal where people have same physical features and same line of language. (Because Mongol name is itself coined around 1200AD)

There movement was definitely like tribe. Like around 1500 BCE vedic people started moving down towards Ganges after the fall of Indus Civilization. That was time when new tribes were moving to new places. In the same way they would have also moved to their present day place.

Now, the next question is when did they come and did they come.

Its pretty easy to answer the second question as most scholars agree and I have found in many articles that Magars have come from present day Sikkim & the they moved towards west. (Read: Magar: A view VIII ( By my friend Babs) at http://laanghali.blogspot.in/search?updated-min=2013-01-01T00:00:00%2B05:30&updated-max=2014-01-01T00:00:00%2B05:30&max-results=14)

In some articles I have read that Magars have come from India, I personally don't find it very logical.

Now the first question is when did they come to Nepal. In one of the article its mentioned they might have migrated around 1100 BCE (Read:  Magars, a short Histroy at http://laanghali.blogspot.in/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00:00:00%2B05:30&updated-max=2010-01-01T00:00:00%2B05:30&max-results=11)
Here I totally agree with the writer. If we assume that we are a part of Kirat than Kirats were mentioned in Yajurveda which was composed from 1200-1000 BCE. The other example is Mahabharata which was composed around 400 BCE has also mentioned about Kirat King Yalambar. So, we can say that we might have migrated at our present day place around 1500-1100BCE. The second option is what if we are not kirats. But in my opinion if we are not kirats then also we are definitely migrated with them because we belong to the same stock. And there are lot of similarities among us. (Read: Magar: A view VIII ( By my friend Babs) at http://laanghali.blogspot.in/search?updated-min=2013-01-01T00:00:00%2B05:30&updated-max=2014-01-01T00:00:00%2B05:30&max-results=14)  Or we might have been more earlier here because Magar are more towards west as compared to so called present days kirats. Here I have tried to established the approx time when Magar migrated to Nepal.

However, we have lots of proof that we were among the first settle who settle in Nepal. As I have read in few articles where they claim that Aryans are the one who came first. The finest example is the Name of the places. Though, there would have been lot of changes in Magar culture since they came here, names of rivers, mountains and places itself proves the theory. This is one thing which time could not change.

Then little latter so called Khas tribe might have also started coming, however we can called them vedic people but not Hindus.

Some scholars says that Magar are Buddhist but in my opinion it doesn't seem so. Because, Gautam Buddha was born around 563 BCE and Magars were there before that. Secondly, in Vedas also lot has been written about Sakya clan, which Gautam Buddha belongs to. I personally feel that Magars were never influenced by Buddism at any point of time, only now there is much hype on it.

After this only mention of Magar comes around 800 AD when historians also agree that there was a strong Magar King called Aramudi who used to rule around Kali Gandaki region.

Now, what about the history of Magar before 800 AD and after they settle down in Nepal. Unfortunately, unlike vedic people we don't have vedas or epic like ramayan or mahabharata which can give us some sort of idea about that time. (If anyone has information of that era I would like to request him to share.) Neither our kings have tried to preserve our true identity or try to explore it.

But, one thing was sure that after Magar were settled they have started to grow bigger, from tribe they developed into principalities. However, the development was slow. However, in the meantime many Kings ruled and lot of activities happened in the Ganges plain but this region remain the same. But, the exact details like their area, names and internal politics are difficult to find.

However, by 800AD there was a Magar King, and an state.(Read:  Magars: A view VI at http://laanghali.blogspot.in/search?updated-min=2013-01-01T00:00:00%2B05:30&updated-max=2014-01-01T00:00:00%2B05:30&max-results=14)

Later, may be lack of strong Magar King, the kingdom got divided into different principalities. Which results into Barah Magarat and Atharah Magarat. Name itself suggest that these were ruled by Magar Kings. Until Prithivi Narayan Shah's unification.

After, muslim invasion started in Ganges plane around 13th Century AD the so called Bahuns started coming to Nepal. Which is agreed by most of the scholars. Because of the same reason Khas people started getting the priority. And they are the one who brought caste system in Nepal. At that time many elite Magars might have been converted into chhetri thats the reason why many titles have common in Magars and chhetries. 

And since they have entered through varanasi via Kali Gandaki region, that is one of the reason why Magars is one of the the most influenced of indigenous group by Hindu as compared to Gurung, Rai & Limbu. 

Here, I just want to  mention that Hinduism and the word Hindu itself come much later as you can read in my blog.

I am sure that Magars were the rulers of Gandaki and Rapti region till 1600 AD.

However, in one of my article  (Read: Magar: A view VIII ( By my friend Babs) at http://laanghali.blogspot.in/search?updated-min=2013-01-01T00:00:00%2B05:30&updated-max=2014-01-01T00:00:00%2B05:30&max-results=14) my friend Bab tried to explain that Shah were basically converted Magars. But how true the fact is needs to be researched. However, in that article he has tried to explain the origin of Magar.


 


Monday, March 24, 2014

Kirat vs Hinduism IV

There is an excellent article by "Windy Doniger" in her book "The Hindus - An alternative story' on Lord Shiva

This article itself says lot of things.

"                                 THE RISE OF SECTARIAN HINDUISM

Despite (or because of) the rise of Buddhism in this period, both Vedic sacrificers and
members of the evolving Hindu sects of Vaishnavas and Shaivas (worshipers of Vishnu and
Shiva) found new sponsors among the ruling families and court circles.20 The keystone for the Brahmin establishment was the new economic power of temple cities.21 From about 500 BCE, kings still performed Vedic sacrifices to legitimize their kingship,22 but the sectarian worship of particular deities began partially to replace Vedic sacrifice.23 As the gods of the Vedic pantheon (Indra, Soma, Agni) faded into the background, Vishnu and Rudra/Shiva, who had played small roles in the Vedas, attracted more and more worshipers. Throughout the Ramayana and Mahabharata, we encounter people who say they worship a particular god, which is the start of sects and therefore of sectarianism.

Pilgrimage and puja are the main forms of worship at this time. Pilgrimage is described at
length in the Mahabharata, particularly but not only in the “Tour of the Sacred Tirthas”
(3.80-140). Sacred fords (tirthas) are shrines where one can simultaneously cross over (which is what tirtha means) the river and the perils of the world of rebirth. As in Ashoka’s edicts, the “conquest of the four corners of the earth” (dig-vijaya), originally a martial image, is now applied to a grand tour of pilgrimage to many shrines, circling the world (India), always to the right. Puja (from the Dravidian pu [“flower”])24 consisted of making an offering to an image of a god (flowers, fruits, sometimes rice), and/or moving a lamp through the air in a circular pattern, walking around the god, and reciting prayers, such as a litany of the names of the god. Krishna in the Bhagavad Gitafa says that pious people offer him a leaf or flower or fruit or water (9.26). Sometimes the image of the god is bathed and dressed, and often the remains of the food that has been offered to the god is then distributed to the worshipers as the god’s “favor” or “grace” (prasada), a relic of the leftovers (ucchishta) from the Vedic sacrifice.

There is rich evidence of the rise of the sectarian gods. The Mahabharata includes a
Hymn of the Thousand Names of Shiva (13.17), and in 150 BCE Patanjali, the author of the
highly influential Yoga Sutras, foundational for the Yoga school of philosophy, mentions a
worshiper of Shiva who wore animal skins and carried an iron lance. Gold coins from this same period depict Shiva holding a trident and standing in front of a massive bull, presumably the bull that is Shiva’s usual vehicle. In the first century BCE, under the Shungas, artisans produced what is generally regarded as the earliest depiction of the god Shiva: a linga just under five feet high, in Gudimallam, in southeastern Andhra Pradesh. (See page 22.) Its anatomical detail, apart from its size, is highly naturalistic, but on the shaft is carved the figure of Shiva, two-armed and also naturalistic, holding an ax in one hand and the body of a small antelope in the other. His thin garment reveals his own sexual organ (not erect), his hair is matted, and he wears large earrings. He stands upon a dwarf. A frieze from the first or second century CE suggests how such a linga might have been worshiped; it depicts a linga shrine under a tree, surrounded by a railing, just like the actual railing that was discovered beneath the floor in which the image was embedded.25
The Mahabharata tells a story about the circumstances under which Shiva came to be
worshiped: SHIVA DESTROYS DAKSHA’S VEDIC SACRIFICEOnce upon a time, when Shiva was living on Mount Meru with his wife, Parvati, the daughter of the mountain Himalaya, all the gods and demigods thronged to him and paid him homage. The Lord of Creatures named Daksha began to perform a horse sacrifice in the ancient manner, which Indra and the gods attended with Shiva’s permission. Seeing this, Parvati asked Shiva where the gods were going, and Shiva explained it to her, adding that the gods had decided long ago not to give him any share in the sacrifice. But Parvati was so unhappy about this that Shiva took his great bow and went with his band of fierce servants to destroy the sacrifice. Some put out the sacrificial fires by dousing them with blood; others began to eat the sacrificial assistants. The sacrifice took the form of a wild animal and fled to the skies, and Shiva pursued it with bow and arrow. The gods, terrified, fled, and the very earth began to tremble. Brahma begged Shiva to desist, promising him a share of the sacrificial offerings forever after, and Shiva smiled and accepted that share (12.274.2-58). This important myth, retold in various transformations several times in the Mahabharata 26 and in other texts through the ages, is in part a historical narrative of what did happen in the history of Hinduism: Shiva was not part of the Vedic sacrifice, and then he became part of the
Hindu sacrifice. The gods, particularly Daksha (a creator, mentioned in the Rig Veda hymn of Aditi [10.72.1-5]), exclude Shiva from their sacrifice because Shiva is the outsider, the Other, the god to whom Vedic sacrifice is not offered; he is not a member of the club of gods that sacrifice to the gods.27 He appears to Arjuna, in a pivotal episode of the Mahabharata, in the form of a naked Kirata, a tribal hunter (3.40.1-5). The myth of Daksha’s sacrifice verifies Shiva’s otherness but modifies it so that Shiva is in fact given a share in some sacrifices, still not part of  the Vedic world but the supreme god of the post-Vedic world, at least in the eyes of the Shaivas who tell this myth. In the Ramayana, the god Rama is on his way to becoming one of the great gods of sectarian Hinduism. The god Krishna too now enters the world of Sanskrit texts, in the Mahabharata. The grammarian Panini, in the fifth century BCE, mentions a Vasudevaka, whom he defines as a devotee (bhakta) of the son of Vasudeva (Krishna), an avatar of Vishnu. This was the time of the beginning of the Bhagavata sects, the worship of Bhagavan, the Lord, a name of Vishnu or Shiva. In 115 BCE, Heliodorus, the son of a Greek from Taxila and himself the Greek ambassador to one of the Shungas,29 set up a pillar in Besnagar in Madhya Pradesh (not far from
the Buddhist stupas at Sanchi), topped by an image of Vishnu’s eagle (the Garuda bird) and an inscription. Heliodorus said he had done this in honor of the son of Vasudeva and that he himself was a Bhagavata.30 This is significant evidence of the conversion of a non-Indian not to Buddhism but to a new form of Hinduism. These are the early stirrings of communal sects that were beginning to supplement, sometimes to replace, the royal and domestic worship of the
Vedic gods."

Friday, February 28, 2014

The Hindu: An alternative History

This is an excellent book by "Windy Doniger", where she has tried to explore the history of Hinduism. A must read book for all who are interested in the subject or History".

Here is a few paragraph from the book which try to mention that how Hinduism is evolved.

"          AN ALTERNATIVE ANSWER: FUSION AND BRICOLAGE

It is therefore unlikely that both the Vedas and Harappa were “a product of the
civilization of these two peoples,” but it is more than likely that later Hinduism was a product
of both of them, a linguistic and cultural combination of Vedic words and Indus images, as well
as other contributions from other cultures. In some areas this combination was a fusion, a
melting pot, a hybrid, while in others the elements kept their original shape and behaved more
like a tossed salad, a multiplicity. This is of course quite different from saying that the Veda was
composed in the Indus Valley cities. But even if the languages and cultures were distinct, as
surely they were, people from the two cultures must have met. Ideas already current in India
before the entry of the Vedic people or arising outside the Vedic world after that entry may have
eventually filtered into Vedic and then post-Vedic Sanskrit literature.55 (These ideas may have
come not only from the IVC but also from the so-called Adivisis or “Original Inhabitants” of
India, or from the Munda speakers and Dravidian speakers whose words are already incorporated
in the Rig Veda, though that is another story.) Survivors of the Indus cities may have taught
something of their culture to the descendants of the poets who composed the Vedas. The people
of Harappa may have migrated south, so that their culture could have found its way into the
strand of Hinduism that arose there. Some elements of pre-Vedic Indo-European civilization
may have been taken up by the last inhabitants of the Indus Valley. Some elements of the Indus
civilization may have been adopted by the authors of later Vedic literature. Some combination of
all of the above seems extremely likely.
A good example of this possible fusion is the case of bricks. The authors of the Rig Veda
did not know about bricks; their rituals required only small mud altars, not large brick altars. But
later, around 600 BCE, when the Vedic people had moved down into the Ganges Valley and
their rituals had become more elaborate, they began to build large brick altars. The size of the
mud bricks was a multiple or fraction of the height of the patron of the sacrifice, and a fairly
sophisticated geometry was developed to work out the proportions. We know that the Indus
people had mastered the art of calculating the precise size of bricks, within a system of uniform
and proportionate measurement. The use of bricks and the calculations in the Vedic ritual may
therefore have come from a Harappan tradition, bypassed the Rig Vedic period, and resurfaced
later. This hypothesis must be qualified by the realization that kiln-fired (in contrast with
sun-fired) brickwork does not reappear until the last centuries BCE, a long time for that secret
to lie dormant. But other aspects of brickmaking, and other ideas, may have been transmitted
earlier.
Though the Vedic people told the story of their early life in India, and their descendants
controlled the narrative for a very long time, most of what Hindus have written about and talked
about and done, from the Mahabharata on, has not come from the Veda. In part because of the
intertextuality and interpracticality of Hinduism, one text or ritual building on another through
the centuries, right back to the Veda, scholars looking at the history of transmission have
assumed that the Veda was the base onto which other things were added in the course of Indian
history, just as Central Asia was the base that absorbed the impact of that interloping piece of
Africa so long ago. And in the textual tradition, at least, this is true enough of the form in which
the ideas were preserved, the chain of memorized texts. But from the standpoint of the ideas
themselves, it was quite the opposite: The Veda was the newcomer that, like the African island
fusing onto a preexisting continental base, combined with a preexisting cultural world consisting
perhaps of the Indus Valley, perhaps of any of several other, more widely dispersed non-Vedic
cultures.
The non-Veda is the fons et origo of Hinduism; new ideas, new narratives, new practices
arose in the non-Sanskrit world, found their way into the Sanskrit world, and, often, left it again,
to have a second or third or fourth life among the great vernacular traditions of India. These new
narratives and practices fitted into the interstices between the plot lines of the great Sanskrit
texts, as stories told in response to the protagonists’ questions about places encountered on their
travels or to illustrate a relevant moral point, or any other reason why. The non-Veda is not one
thing but so many things. We have noted, briefly, and can rank in the order that their records
appear in history, the existence of at least five cultures: (1) Stone Age cultures in India long
before the Indus are the foundation on which all later cultures built. (2) At some point,
impossible to fit into a chronology or even an archaeology, come the Adivasis, the “Original
Inhabitants” of India, who spoke a variety of languages and contributed words and practices to
various strands of Hinduism. Many of them were there long before the IVC and may have been a
part of it; many of them have never been assimilated to Hinduism. Next come (3) the Indus
civilization and (4) the village traditions that preceded, accompanied, and followed it, and after
that (5) the culture of the Vedic people. Along the way, other language groups too, such as (6)
the Tamils and other Dravidian speakers,60 who may or may not have been a part of the IVC,
added pieces to the puzzle.
Hinduism, like all cultures, is a bricoleur, a rag-and-bones man, building new things out
of the scraps of other things. We’ve seen how the British used the stones of Mohenjo-Daro as
ballast for their railway before (and after) they realized what those stones were and that a
Buddhist stupa stands over some of the ruins there. So too Hindus built their temples on (and out
of) Buddhist stupas as well as on other Hindu temples, and Muslims their mosques on Hindu
temples (and Buddhist stupas), often reusing the original stones, new wine in old bottles,
palimpsest architecture. In the realm of ideas as well as things, one religion would take up a
word or image from another religion as a kind of objet trouvé. There are no copyrights there; all
is in the public domain. This is not the hodgepodge that the Hindus and the early Orientalists
regarded as dirt, matter out of place, evidence of an inferior status but, rather, the interaction of
various different strains that is an inevitable factor in all cultures and traditions, and a Good
Thing."

Source:  The Hindu: an alternatgive history by Windy Doniger

Wednesday, January 22, 2014

Influence of Magar language in Nepali language -II

" The Khas language, originating in Jumla and the Sinja Valley, influenced Nepali language which incorporated words from Sanskrit and Magar language . Many Magar words are used even today, especially location names. Some are:[27]

  • Dhaulagiri (Dhaula-difficult, gi-following down, ri-water)
  • Chomolungma (cracked peak)
  • Lhotse (a cone-shaped container made of corn-cob cover)
  • Sisne Himal (a fallen head)
  • Kanchanjunga (clear peak)
  • Koshi (deep), Kali Gandaki/Kali Gandi (dirty water)
  • Bheri/Bhiri (river rolling down from a cliff)
  • Karnali (curved), {(di = water Cf. Sanskrit nadi (na+di)= river}
  • Budhi Gandaki/Budi Gan + di (Having a lot of water)
  • Bagmati/Bangmadi (Bang-meadow suitable for human settlement; madi-river)
  • Marsyangdi (serpentine river)
  • Kot/Koi (place where government administration is conducted)
  • Patan (meadow filled with short grass and small bushes)
  • Dhorpatan (Dhor-extended and wide)
  • Sinja (sin-wood; ja-pot)
  • Galkot/Galkoi (Gal-brave)
  • Musikot (musi-a place in the shadow)
  • Gorkha/Garkhakoi (a small village)
  • Gaam (a big village)
  • Ligligkot (a high Kot)
  • Rupandehi/Rupadihi (rupa-silver; dihi-field)
  • Lumbini/Lungbingi (lung-stone; bingi-without)
  • Chitwan/Chidvan (chid-dense; van-jungle)
  • Dang (long)
  • Salyan (paved platform for rest)
  • Sindhuli/Singdhuli (a heap of ashes)
  • Tilaurakot/Tilawakoi (place selling sesame seed)
  • Jhapa (a land full of soil)
  • Tansen/Tansing (Tan-straight; sing-wood/timber)
  • Baglung/banglung (lung-a - stony)
  • Kushma (a confluence)
  • Dhankuta (place above a cliff)
  • Hile (a place that comes immediately after you climb an uphill path)
  • Mechi (low flat land)
Some scholars opine the amount of Magar words in Nepali indicates that Magarat (historic Magar lands) were larger than generally believed, extending from Dhading to Doti.,[28] that the place suffix Kot indicates a place from which Magar kings formerly ruled. "


Source : http://mireinrothablogspotcom-mirein.blogspot.in/2012/06/blog-post_4428.html



Magar Empire

"Magar Empire

Magar is a warrior and martial people that first established it's kingdom in present day western Nepal. They were animistic and shamanic in their religious practices. The Kham Magar of upper Karnali basin and their brethren of mid hills of Nepal had a flourishing and empirical kingdoms. Much archaeological proof of their existence can be found in the western mid hills of Nepal.

Magar have a strong military and warrior traditions. However, their hospitality and concern for the fellow human being is also legendary. The two waves of immigrants became the undoing for Magar empire.

Firstly, the Khasas were welcomed and assimilated within Magar empire. Secondly, following the rout of fundamentalist Brahmin Hindus of the Gangetic plains of India by the advancing Mugal forces, the traditionalist Brahmin Hindus entered Magar empire as refugees. They brought with them Hindu religion.

It is the misfortune of Magar empire and the whole Magar people that these two groups were given sanctuary in Magar empire. The latter group of refugees started to impose their fundamentalist view of Hindu religion upon Magars in Magar kingdoms whereas the former group were given the status of Chettri by the latter group in accordance to their fundamentalist view of Hindu religion.

This left the Magar people to be boxed into the third tier of their own kingdoms. (The first being the fundamentalist refugee Brahmin, the second being newly elevated Chettri, previously the Khasas)

This meant that the once rulers of the Nepali mid hills became the ruled upon. Thus starts the degradation of Magar empire. The introduction of Hinduism in itself became the cataclysmic event in the undoing of the Magar empire."


Source: http://pastnepal.blogspot.in/2008/10/magar-empire.html

Tuesday, November 26, 2013

From "The Magars: Their History, Language and Culture"

This is a beautiful article from Facebook group "The Magars: Their History, Language and Culture"

" प्रधानमन्त्री भीमसेन थापाले आफुलाई 'वर्मा क्षेत्री' भनेपछि …।
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प्रधानमन्त्री भीमसेन थापाले आफु 'वर्मा क्षेत्री' भएको कुरा एउटा शिलालेखमा लेखाएर काठमाडौँको विष्णुमती पूलमा राखिसकेपछि उनलाई 'वर्मा थापा क्षेत्री' होईन भन्न मिल्दैन । प्रधानमन्त्री भीमसेन थापा 'वर्मा क्षेत्री' भन्नै पर्ने हुन्छ ।

उनले आफुलाई जे भने उनी त्यही हुन। यसमा बीचका अरुहरुले यसो र त्यसो भन्नुको कुनै माने हुदैन । उनी 'वर्मा थापा क्षेत्री' नभएर अर्थात् तल भनिएझै भएर पनि त्यसले आजको मगर समाजलाई के लाभ हुन्छ त ? केही पनि हुदैन । बरु यस्ता कुराहरुको पछि नलागेर कसरी अघि बढ्ने भन्ने सोच बनाउनु राम्रो हुन्छ । त्यस निम्ति सबभन्दा पहिलो कुरो पर्यो - 'शिक्षा' ।

र ,आजको युग अनुसारको उपयोगी शिक्षा कसरी हासिल गर्ने ? त्यतातिर सबैको ध्यान जानु पर्यो । "



Source: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Magars-Their-History-Language-and-Culture/171605959649718

Monday, November 18, 2013

Magars History - IV ( By my friend Babs)



" The origin of Mangar tribe as mentioned in Kirat chronology is a place in the north called Shin. From there, a group of people under the leadership of two leaders came to the south. The names of the leaders were Shing Mangar and Chitu Mangar. The people of the southern country called them Tangsang Thapa which means the people came from the far away north. Later on, these Mangar tribes multiplied and were divided into 12 groups under twelve leaders and called themselves Barah Mangars.
The names of the twelve Mangars were Shinjali Thapa, Hongjali Thapa, Hungchun Thapa, Chhodey Thapa, Pudkey Thapa, Mundey Thapa, Udhro Thapa, Bairong Thapa, Ishar Thapa, Barahi Thapa, Hangyung Thapa and Hangshe Thapa.
When they came to Sikkim they settled there permanently. They built Jongs or Forts or castles, wherever they settled and called them Mangar Jong or the fort of Mangars or the castle of Mangars.
Pandit Sarad Chandra Das proves the existence of Mangars in Sikkim and Eastern Nepal.
"The legend which he heard of the Mangar tribe and the ruins of their forts and towns in the valley of Kangbachhan river in the East Nepal is very interesting; people said that the account is correct and true."
"The upper valley of Kangbachhan river was occupied by the people of Tibetan stock and the lower valley was occupied by the Mangar tribe whose king was called Sintusati Sen. The Mangar king attacked the Tibetan people and ruled over them. He extracted a heavy tax from them."
"His deputies always oppressed the people to squeeze out money from them, so the Tibetan people started to conspire against the Mangar king. One day when the Mangar chief had gone to visit the Tibetan village with many followers, they were surrounded and killed by the Bhutias. When the Mangar queen heard this sad news of her husband, she planned to take revenge on the Bhutia subjects.

"She, therefore, ordered for a grand funeral in the honour of the departed soul. The funeral was fixed to take place six miles up the river, midway between the two great
villages of the Kangbachhan valley, so that all the villagers might assemble there.
After the queen's followers had finished drinking, poisoned wine was given plentifully to the Bhutia villagers, who suspecting nothing, drank freely and all died. In this way, nearly one thousand men and women died. The infants in arms were taken away by the queen's followers. The place where this foul deed was committed was now called 'Tongsong Phug' or the place which witnessed one thousand corpses. As a result of this, a Tibetan army invaded several Jongs belonging to the Mangar queen. She had no preparation to fight the enemy, so she shut herself in one of her castles or Jongs and her soldiers defended the castle for three months.
"This Tibetan soldiers then tried to compel the Mangars to surrender by depriving them of water. At last, the queen, aware of this intention, threw all the water she had in store towards the camp. The Tibetan soldiers thinking that she had abundence of water inside the castle raised the seize and went to a distance to watch the movement of the Mangar people. She immediately collected her soldiers and pursued the enemy. When a skirmish took place, she fell fighting nobly. The rest of Mangars left their place of Kangbachhan valley and migrated towards south west direction and reached as far west as Simang Garh situated about six miles east of present Birganj of central Nepal. When their number multiplied they were divided into two groups under the leadership of Phalemi Khan and Yomchhammi Khan and spread towards eastern and western directions. Phalemi Khan led his horde towards West Nepal and settled in Palpa. Yomchhammi Khan returned to Limbuwan in the east and settled in Shanpur of Chainpur and intermingled with Limbu nationals and became Limbus of Sinjali Thapa, Rana, Aley and Pun clans.

Those who settled in Palpa of West Nepal were divided into Thapa, Akey, Pun, Burathoki, Rana, Gharti, Bohra, Roka, Chaohan, Konwar, Uchai and Roho tribes and called themselves Magar, instead of the original name Mangar.
In the East Nepal and Sikkim, the Mangars are so called because they were the children of Mang or Mong or Mongol people. The Chinese and Burmese people people call Mang or Mong for Mongolians; and ar or arui means children. So, Mangar means the children of Mongols. Most probably, it can be correct interpretation, because their complexion proves that they are no other than scattered Mongolians although before the 12th century AD there were no tribes in Central Asia called the Mongolians. There were many nomadic tribes called Kin, Kir, Kirait, Karatai,, Karakhitai, Khitai, Uigur or Hor, Monchu, Mongku, Tungut, Seljuk, Karluk, Turk, Burun, Sak, Kushan, Hun, Abar, Uichi, Kajak, Chin, Khas, Thak, Gyarung and Mangyak. They were all nomads except China. They used to live in tents and had no permanent inhabitants. Frequent antagonism and plundering among themselves were their main object. There was no such name as Mongol in the world upto the 12th century AD.
It was in the 12th century AD, when Chengiz Khan called a meeting of all the above mentioned tribes and when all the tribes unanimously elected him to be their Gurkhan or the Khan of Khans or the King of Kings, he proposed that a common name for all the separate tribes of Central Asia should be Mongol. Then all the tribes unanimously agreed and from that time only the people of Central Asia began to call themselves Mongol. Chengiz Khan himself belonged to the Mong Ku tribe and Chinese people used to call them Mong Ku Tata. A branch of this race settled in Hungary in Europe and called themselves Magiar tribe.
It appears that long before the adoption of such name of Mongol in Asia, a branch of Manchu and Tungut migrated to Korea and Japan and made their permanent home there, Similarly, a branch of Kirait, Uigur and Mongku tribes also spread towards Suchuwang or Kham, Unam, Burma, East India and Nepal. They did neither hear the name Mongol nor they claim it to be their origin.
Therefore, the Mangar tribe of Nepal must be from the composite group of Kirait and Mongku, who came to Sikkim and bacame Mangar. There are certain Lapcha tribes called Mongormu. It appears that some of the Mangar tribes might have mixed with the Lapcha tribe of Sikkim and became a Lapcha Kirat people. Further, there is a folklore among Nepalese that Mangars are a sect of Kirat people who brought sweet potatoes into Sikkim and Nepal. Specially, the Lapcha tribe called it Mangorbook or the potatoes introduced by Mangar tribe.
There is another proof of the affinity of the Mangar and Lapcha tribe in counting numbers. The Mangar tribe counts one, two,three, four,five as kat, net or nis, sam,buli,banga and the Lapcha tribe says kat,net,sam,fali,fungu. These are the evidences of the residence of Mangar Kirat people in Sikkim. Not only that, but the Mangar chiefs were so active in Sikkim that they kept on fighting with the Sikkimese chiefs upto the 18th century AD. Sikkim history mentions that the Sikkimese chiefs tried their best to bring the Mangar chief under their power by keeping matrimonial connection with them. Chhangzat Karwang, the Chief Minister of Sikkim married the daughter of one of the Mangar chiefs of Sikkim and wanted to keep friendly relation with them, but the Mangars were never influenced by the Buddhist Kings and Ministers of Sikkim. When the Mangar Chief of Sikkim understood that nothing could be expected from the Buddhist King of Sikkim they totally neglected the Sikkimese relation and the Sikkimese also dropped all the records of Mangar people from the history of Sikkim.
Still there are many places in Sikkim and East Nepal called Mangar jong or the Fort of Mangar tribe.
On the contrary, the Mangars of West Nepal prospered so much so that they formed a league of twelve Khans and established a state and called it Barah Mangrat, the central government of which was at Bhirkot. Khan means king in Magar language. Now, I write the word Magar as pronounced by Nepalese people.
According to Brian Hodgson and Captain T. Smith the league of Twelve Magars consisted of Satahung, Payahung, Bhirkot, Dhor, Garahung, Rising, Ghiring, Gulmi, Argha, Khachi, Musikot and Isma.
Each of these twelve districts had its own Khan or King, though they had agreed by common consent to regard the Khan of Bhirkot as their Overlord.
But in later period, this system of government was ceased as the Kings of Palpa, Rising, Ghiring and Rajarkot claimed independent Kings with the title of Shan Hang. Thus, they were broken into two prominent Kings of Khan dynasty and Shan dynasty. They had their own language and culture. Dhami was their religious priest. Long before the coming of the Hindu influence into their kingdoms, there was a Kirat King called Bali Hang, who had an extensive Kingdom from Pokhra to Gorakhpur and the Magars had spread from the hilly region to the Terai region.
As time passed on, the Shan Kings extended their Kingdom towards south and east of Palpa and the Khan Kings extended their kingdom towards north and east of Bhirkot.
When the Hindu missionaries began to spread Hinduism in the Western Nepal, the Shah King of Palpa was the first to be converted into Hinduism and became a Hindu Rajput King and claimed his descent from Sen family of India. His name was Chilla Rai. Similarly, when Hindu missionaries approached the Chief of Bhirkot, who was of Khan family, for conversion, he refused them and remained a pure Magar King. His name was Khan Chha Khan which means the King's Son King.

The Hindu missionaries then approached the second prince whose name was Mechha Khan or the youngest son king. The missionaries assured that he would also be a king like his elder brother if he would accept Hinduism. So, he gave his consent to them to convert him into Hinduism. Thus, the second prince of Bhirkot also became a Hindu Rajput and his religious priests made him the King of Nuwakot of Barah Mangrat. He was succeeded by Jaya Khan, Micha Khan, Bichitra Khan, Jagdeo Khan and Kulmandan Khan. From the time of this king, he changed his family title from Khan to Shah which carries the same meaning as king. The descendants of King Khanchha Khan of Bhirkot, though refused to accept Hinduism and agreed to abide by their own tribal culture, yet he with all his subjects were so much influenced by Hinduism that all the Magar tribes ceased to follow the teaching of their own tribal priest and followed the doctrine of Hindu priests with respect to birth, marriage and death ceremonies and those officials of the courts of Shan Kings and Khan Kings of Palpa and Bhirkot who could afford for conversion into Hinduism became Hindu Rajputs and called themselves Kshatris. In this way, the Magar Kings and their officials were converted into Hindu civilization. Yet in the middle of 18th century AD, King Prithvi Narayan Shah was very proud of calling himself the King of Mangrat. He has said in his Divya Updesh, "Mangrat of Raja mai hun", "I am the King of Mangrat". Lt. Col. E. Vansitart has also mentioned in his book called Gurkhas, that "the famous Prime Minister Bhimsen Thapa was the descendant of Magar Thapa family, as was also General Amar Singh Thapa".146 It is a known fact that the late Great King Prithvi Narayan Shan of Gurkha State had extended his Kingdom east and west by the strength of these Magar army.
The Magars or Mangars are divided into twelve tribes called Thapa, Rana, Ale, Pun, Burathoki, Gharti, Bohra, Roka, Chauhan, Konwar, Uchai and Jhakri and each tribe is subdivided into many clans.
Among them Thapa tribes are more in number. The Rana class of Magar tribes belonged to the same stock of Thapa but, when they were separated from their original group and lost for three generations, they settled in a place called Gurkha and called themselves by the name of Rana which mens chief. Thus, the habitants of Rana Magar became the Gurkha village. Later on, the Khas people came from Kumaon and Garhwal and mixed with the Magars and became one with them till they were not converted into Hinduism.
Although all Magars follow Hinduism, the Pun Magars of Tibetan frontier are still practice Buddhist religion and follow their tribal rites at their birth, marriage and death ceremonies.
Some of the Magar clans are as follows:
Thapa Magars
Baral, Balami, Baraghari, Sinjali, Bagale, Thapa consists of Atghari, Satgahari, Palungi, Darlam, Punwar, Setu, Singe, Roshala and Kala.

Gaha Thapa consists of Badchha, Chidi, Gora, Khan and Malangi.
Reshmi Thapa consists of Dangale, Gore and Thapa.
Saru Thapa consists of Jaurup, Japarluk, Jhenri and Paneti. Besides these, Gurbachan, Purbachan, Tangbachhan, Simai, Pithakote, Singali, Uchai, Pulami, Marunchan, Ramjali, Lamchhaney and Kalikotey.
Rana Magars
Assami, Arsami, Aslami, Bangling, Chumi, Charmi, Gharmi, Gyangmi, Kharka, Eyapchaki, Lungeli, Makkim, Pali, Panti, Rilami, Ruchal, Chitorey are famous.
Pun Magars
Birkali, Baijali, Phungali, Namjali, Balali, Tajali, Thakali, Sain, Sanangi, Sothi are famous.
Burathoki Magars
Balkoti, Deobal, Gamal, Karal, Ulange, Karmani, Pahari, Jujali, Pojonge, Thami, Ranju are famous.
Ale Magars
Argheli, Bili, Changi, Hiski, Hungchen, Lamjel, Limial, Roho, Rimal, Rakhal, Suyal, Sirpali, Sarangi are famous.
Gharti Magars
Baima, Banjali, Bulami, Dagami, Galami, Gamal, Kalikote, Masrangi, Pahari or Panre, Para, Phagami, Rangu, Rawal, Rijal, Same, Sawangi, Sene, Surai, Sinjapati, Talaji, There, Tirukia, Ulange and Wale are famous.
In my (the author’s) opinion the Magars had advanced much and had divided into two groups of higher and lower social standing and those who were of higher circle followed Hinduism and became themselves Thakurs or Kshetris and observed the strict formalities of Brahmanism whereas the people of lower circle were quite satisfied with their own familiar culture and did not mind to follow such strict rules of Hinduism and remained Magars, such as the Koch Kirat of Assam and North Bengal who were also converted into Hinduism and became themselves Rajbansi Kshetri and the people of lower circle remained Mech and Koch tribes."

From my friend Babs whos has shared this me in Orkut.